CLEO’s Order panel calculates Return using realistic dollar PnL, and that figure already includes commissions. If you’re used to a platform that shows Return based on price points or pips only, the numbers won’t match. This isn’t a bug, tt’s a more accurate picture of what will happen with your position.

What’s happening

Some platforms calculate Return purely from price movement: entry, stop loss, and take profit in points, with no adjustment for trading costs. That number looks clean, but it doesn’t reflect how the position will actualy play out.

CLEO’s Order panel factors in commissions before showing you Return. The figure you see is closer to your realistic net result, not a theoretical one based on price movement alone.

For example this $10,000 position is 3:1 in terms of risk to reward, but it will be closer to 2.3 R once comissions are taken into account:

On the other hand in the position below the R:R in price movement is 1:1 but the R will be closer to 0.5 due to the inclusion of comissions.

Please note that slippage is not factored in as it is very dependant on position size, liquidity and volatility. If you’re trading lower caps it will also have an impact outside of the predicition in the order panel. Funding fees are also variable and not included.

Why this matters more on some trades than others

Commissions are a fixed or near-fixed cost per trade, based on your position size. Your targeted price move, on the other hand, can be anything. That means the impact of commissions on your Return scales differently depending on your setup:

• Larger position sizes: a bigger position means a bigger commission, even if the target move stays the same.
• Smaller targeted moves: if you’re aiming for a tight move, commissions eat up a larger share of the PnL you’re chasing.
• Combine both: a large position targeting a small move is where you’ll see the biggest gap between a points-based Return and CLEO’s commission-inclusive Return.

A trade targeting a large move on a small position barely notices commissions. A trade targeting a small move on a large position can see commissions take up a meaningful chunk of the potential profit.

What to do about it

• Treat the Return shown in the Order panel as your realistic, after-cost estimate, not a rough approximation.
• If you’re scalping or targeting small moves with larger size, check the Return figure before placing the order. It may be lower than what you’d calculate from price movement alone.
• If you’re coming from another platform, don’t compare Return numbers side by side without accounting for this difference. They’re measuring different things.

Why we calculate it this way

A Return figure that ignores commissions can make a trade look more profitable than it is, especially at scale. CLEO shows you the number that reflects your actual outcome, so what you see in the Order panel is what you should expect to get.

You can always check your position costs

Under the chart you can find every detail of your position costs including comissions, funding fees and slippage. CLEO is the most transparent prop trading platform.